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	<title>Comments on: So What&#8217;s With Honda?</title>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
		<link>http://www.formula1latest.com/2007/04/07/so-whats-with-honda/comment-page-1/#comment-1817</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shell are doing a big campaign at the moment using their F1 involvement with Ferrari as the focal point.  Have a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qT_q8PXFrw&quot; title=&quot;Shell ad on YouTube&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this ad for television&lt;/a&gt; - I think you&#039;ll agree, it&#039;s great!  So maybe they are showing the way to get more out of sponsorship and the wings won&#039;t be so necessary in the future.  I hope so.

The pointer is a good idea but F1 doesn&#039;t like to admit learning anything from other forms of racing - doubt we&#039;ll ever see it unless someone can come up with a variation that enables F1 to claim originality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shell are doing a big campaign at the moment using their F1 involvement with Ferrari as the focal point.  Have a look at <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qT_q8PXFrw" title="Shell ad on YouTube" rel="nofollow">this ad for television</a> &#8211; I think you&#8217;ll agree, it&#8217;s great!  So maybe they are showing the way to get more out of sponsorship and the wings won&#8217;t be so necessary in the future.  I hope so.</p>
<p>The pointer is a good idea but F1 doesn&#8217;t like to admit learning anything from other forms of racing &#8211; doubt we&#8217;ll ever see it unless someone can come up with a variation that enables F1 to claim originality.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Rosenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About advertising on F1 cars:  the &quot;billboard&quot; rear wing is not the only exposure available to teams.  In Budapest, I was amazed to see on some Shell stations, huge posters that depicted a life-sized Shumi in his Ferrari driving suit, gassing up a common civilian car.

Occasionally I &quot;accidentally&quot; stumble upon a NASCAR race for a few minutes (Montoya&#039;s doin&#039; okay).  Sometimes an on-screen electronically rendered &quot;pointer&quot; indicates one car or another in the mass of 40-odd juggernauts that all look more or less the same.  Perhaps F1 could occasionally do the same thing, with the sponsor&#039;s logo on a &quot;balloon&quot; at the top of the pointer.  Maybe they&#039;d trade that for wing banishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About advertising on F1 cars:  the &#8220;billboard&#8221; rear wing is not the only exposure available to teams.  In Budapest, I was amazed to see on some Shell stations, huge posters that depicted a life-sized Shumi in his Ferrari driving suit, gassing up a common civilian car.</p>
<p>Occasionally I &#8220;accidentally&#8221; stumble upon a NASCAR race for a few minutes (Montoya&#8217;s doin&#8217; okay).  Sometimes an on-screen electronically rendered &#8220;pointer&#8221; indicates one car or another in the mass of 40-odd juggernauts that all look more or less the same.  Perhaps F1 could occasionally do the same thing, with the sponsor&#8217;s logo on a &#8220;balloon&#8221; at the top of the pointer.  Maybe they&#8217;d trade that for wing banishment.</p>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of Ferrari&#039;s funding comes from FIAT but they are the last F1 team to retain at least some sponsorship from a tobacco company.  Amazingly, Marlboro continue to pay although I&#039;m not sure what they get in return.  The fact that Ferrari have altered the Italian red of their cars to (slightly) resemble the more orangey Marlboro red seems hardly worth the money.  But the rear wing is a part of the plan, no doubt - perhaps the white stripes are supposed to resemble the bar code on a pack of cigarettes but it&#039;s stretching things a bit, I think.  I suppose anything will do as long as they don&#039;t actually announce the name of the product...

Yes, they could lower the rear wing, Dan, and it would alter the car&#039;s aerodynamics quite a bit.  But the teams hate doing it because they know it will mean yet more work in the wind tunnel, trying to get back the downforce somehow.  And you can bet that they&#039;d succeed, just as they do every time the FIA changes the rules.

As for the Hamilton/Massa contest, it&#039;s very much a matter of personal opinion.  My own is that we witnessed a fascinating meeting of GP2-learned racecraft from Hamilton and sheer desperation from Massa.  Basically, Massa expected the superior Ferrari performance to enable him to breeze past the McLaren and he became frustrated when it proved a little more difficult than that - the result was the mistake that put the Brazilian back in fifth spot (where he proved unable to pass Heidfeld either).

Had it been Raikkonen in the same position (with a new engine that didn&#039;t need nursing, in other words), I think Hamilton would have been passed sooner or later.  Massa has improved, thanks to his year with Michael, but he is out of his depth when attempting to compete with Raikkonen.

That&#039;s my opinion but the race itself gives good reasons to think so.  I keep hearing that there was no overtaking but that is not true - how else did Alex Wurz get from 20th on the grid to finish 9th?  In fact, Wurz had a tremendous race and passed all sorts of respected drivers, showing that it is quite possible to overtake these days.  Sure, he was in a very good car but so was Massa.  The difference was that Massa failed to wait for the right moment to pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of Ferrari&#8217;s funding comes from FIAT but they are the last F1 team to retain at least some sponsorship from a tobacco company.  Amazingly, Marlboro continue to pay although I&#8217;m not sure what they get in return.  The fact that Ferrari have altered the Italian red of their cars to (slightly) resemble the more orangey Marlboro red seems hardly worth the money.  But the rear wing is a part of the plan, no doubt &#8211; perhaps the white stripes are supposed to resemble the bar code on a pack of cigarettes but it&#8217;s stretching things a bit, I think.  I suppose anything will do as long as they don&#8217;t actually announce the name of the product&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, they could lower the rear wing, Dan, and it would alter the car&#8217;s aerodynamics quite a bit.  But the teams hate doing it because they know it will mean yet more work in the wind tunnel, trying to get back the downforce somehow.  And you can bet that they&#8217;d succeed, just as they do every time the FIA changes the rules.</p>
<p>As for the Hamilton/Massa contest, it&#8217;s very much a matter of personal opinion.  My own is that we witnessed a fascinating meeting of GP2-learned racecraft from Hamilton and sheer desperation from Massa.  Basically, Massa expected the superior Ferrari performance to enable him to breeze past the McLaren and he became frustrated when it proved a little more difficult than that &#8211; the result was the mistake that put the Brazilian back in fifth spot (where he proved unable to pass Heidfeld either).</p>
<p>Had it been Raikkonen in the same position (with a new engine that didn&#8217;t need nursing, in other words), I think Hamilton would have been passed sooner or later.  Massa has improved, thanks to his year with Michael, but he is out of his depth when attempting to compete with Raikkonen.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my opinion but the race itself gives good reasons to think so.  I keep hearing that there was no overtaking but that is not true &#8211; how else did Alex Wurz get from 20th on the grid to finish 9th?  In fact, Wurz had a tremendous race and passed all sorts of respected drivers, showing that it is quite possible to overtake these days.  Sure, he was in a very good car but so was Massa.  The difference was that Massa failed to wait for the right moment to pass.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Ferrari be using any sponsors on there wing this year? It seems like they are almost completely self-funded compared to all the sponsors on the other cars (with Honda being the exception). 

I had somewhat an understanding that the wings are regulated, but compared to other single seat series, they are still very high on the car. It seems like that they could still lessen the effectiveness of the wing without sacrificing the overall surface area.  

I am not biased to any one team, and as great as Hamilton seems to be(possibly the best first turn driver in the sport), I don&#039;t believe he would have been able to hold of Massa had the cars been more group friendly. There are 200+ turns in the race, it seems like only the first one counts at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Ferrari be using any sponsors on there wing this year? It seems like they are almost completely self-funded compared to all the sponsors on the other cars (with Honda being the exception). </p>
<p>I had somewhat an understanding that the wings are regulated, but compared to other single seat series, they are still very high on the car. It seems like that they could still lessen the effectiveness of the wing without sacrificing the overall surface area.  </p>
<p>I am not biased to any one team, and as great as Hamilton seems to be(possibly the best first turn driver in the sport), I don&#8217;t believe he would have been able to hold of Massa had the cars been more group friendly. There are 200+ turns in the race, it seems like only the first one counts at the moment.</p>
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